Listen to the third episode of The Living Church podcast! Your hosts, Zachary Guiliano and Andrew Petiprin, discuss a recent article, Wesley Hill’s “Fellowship with the unorthodox: Some thoughts on a recent controversy.” Hill was responding to the roiling debate over James K.A. Smith’s piece “On ‘orthodox Christianity’: some observations and a couple questions.” Hill, Smith, and others ask just what it means to be an orthodox Christian in this day and age, and how it relates to confessing the creeds and to the Church’s position on same-sex marriage. Zack and Andrew take the conversation further, considering the nature of conciliar orthodoxy, a “richly textured” pattern of Christian life, and the urgency of responding to racism, in the wake of events in Charlottesville. Here, they connect the discussion to two recent pieces on the blog: Esau McCaulley’s “‘Say it with your chest’: Proclaming the supremacy of Christ in the face of white supremacy” and Matthew Burdette’s “6 thoughts after Charlottesville.” In the Recollection segment, Andrew recommends James Matthew Wilson’s The Vision of the Soul: Truth, Goodness, and Beauty in the Western Tradition (Catholic University of America), which launches a quick discussion of the nourishing effects of the “Platonic bath” and “Neo-Platonic stew” of Western philosophy. Zack discusses Isaac Asimov’s Foundation, a classic science fiction novel on the dissolution of empire and the renewal of culture. Here, as in so many recent conversations, Rod Dreher’s Benedict Option comes up. Listen in, subscribe on iTunes or SoundCloud, and look forward to next week’s episode.